In this 3rd episode of The Birth Geeks Podcast Hillary interviews Molly Mendota AdvCD/BDT(DONA), LCCE, CLS, SpBCPE.  Together they discuss the importance of self-care as a doula and how Hillary tried to skip Molly’s lesson about it at a conference! They also talk about different ways that doulas practice, being a doula trainer, and non-profit doula organizations. Molly is a delightfully insightful interviewee who shares her wisdom about ways to make sure we nurture ourselves before we try to nurture other people, and spoiler alert, it doesn’t always have to include a fancy spa day!